Episode description: In this episode of Facing Coming Storms, host Peter Apps is joined by US Naval War College Professor Nikolas Gvosdev and CHACR director Dr Andrew Sharpe to unpack ‘Operation Epic Fury’ and what it tells us about modern warfare. What starts as a discussion about Iran quickly turns into something much bigger. This is about how wars actually unfold today, why they rarely go to plan, and why the systems we’ve relied on for decades might not hold up anymore.

About the podcast: Facing Coming Storms is the new international defence podcast from the British Army’s Centre for Historical Analysis and Conflict Research and the Project for the Study of the 21st Century. From confrontation to conflict, join us each Monday for insightful discussions, conversations and expert analysis. Facing Coming Storms is produced by Urban Podcasts.